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According to the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy,

“Philosophy of religion is the philosophical examination of the central themes and concepts involved in religious traditions.”

Real Atheology is a two-person conversational podcast focusing on contemporary philosophy of religion from an atheist perspective. Real Atheology features discussions, interviews, and debates for philosophy of religion nerds of all metaphysical stripes.



Justin Schieber was raised a Christian but failed to maintain his faith beyond his teenage years. Justin is now a philosophically-minded atheist with an empathy for those with whom he disagrees. Justin is former co-host of the Reasonable Doubts Podcast and current co-host of the Real Atheology Podcast – a dialogical program exploring the rich landscape of contemporary academic philosophy of religion from an atheistic perspective. Justin has lectured on the philosophical arguments for and against the existence of God and has participated in many public debates throughout the United States and Canada. December 2016 saw the publication of ‘An Atheist and a Christian Walk into a Bar‘, a conversational exploration on the merits of theism co-authored with Canadian theologian Randal Rauser and published through Prometheus Books.

Ben Watkins was raised as a Christian in a Quaker-like faith in the Deep South of South Carolina though he is currently an atheist. His undergraduate degree is in Mechanical Engineering from the University of South Carolina, and he currently resides in Norfolk Virginia where he works as a Nuclear Engineer for The Department of Defense. Additionally, he is currently pursuing his Master’s Degree at Old Dominion University in quite a different direction: Philosophy. His main areas of interest are in the philosophy of religion, moral philosophy, and the philosophy of mind. Though he no longer considers himself a believer, he still finds great value in studying, discussing, and reflecting on deep questions about God, religion, and reasons for belief about both. Ben’s commitment is to pursuing truth for its own sake and making an effort to engage with theists charitably and with their strongest arguments. This is Ben’s first podcast project but has appeared on some other podcasts such as Semper Reformanda Radio and The Freed Thinker Podcast. Additionally, he has had a couple of written debates on the topics such as the moral argument and defending a form of metaphysical naturalism.